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david.crichton · Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 27

Maybe something Bill C-51 could address:
http://www.pulsus.com/journals/ab...rt=t&fromfold=Current%20Issue
Review February 2008, Volume 22 Issue 2: 169-175
Probiotic products in Canada with clinical evidence: What can gastroenterologists recommend?
G Reid, K Anukam, T Koyama
Probiotics, defined as 'live microorganisms, which when administered in adequate amounts, confer a health benefit on the host', are finally becoming an option for gastroenterologists in Canada, after being available for many years in Japan, Europe and the United States of America. Unfortunately, Health Canada and the US Food and Drug Administration have not controlled the use of the term 'probiotic' or put into place United Nations and World Health Organization guidelines. The net result is that a host of products are available called 'probiotics', that are not truly probiotic. The aim of the present review was to discuss the rationale for probiotics in gastroenterology, and specifically examine which products are options for physicians in Canada, and which ones patients might be using. It is hoped that by clarifying what probiotics are, and the strengths and limitations of their use, specialists will be better placed to make recommendations on the role of these products in patient care. In due course, more clinically documented probiotics will emerge, some with therapeutic effects based on a better understanding of disease processes.

Also very interesting:
http://www.cdd.com.au/html/expertise/publications.html Scroll down to
Probiotics under the regulatory microscope.
T. Borody, A. Henriksson, R. Clancy.
Expert Opin. Drug Saf. 2005; 4(6):

And:
Bacteriotherapy using fecal flora: toying with human motions.
TJ Borody, EF Warren, SM Leis, R Surace, O Ashman, S Siarakas.
J Clin Gastroenterol 2004; 38(6): 475-83.

Finally:
CBC Video: http://www.cbc.ca/clips/mov/taylor-fecal-071115.mov
The two doctors they interview, Libman and Silverman, are complete nimrods. Libman: "[because it is just anecdotal...blah blah]". Well you don't say doctor, but that is just what Dr. Borody said; we need major studies to find out why it works so well for c diff. and some IBD. And Silverman: "[it is very hard to placebo blind...blah blah]". How so doctor? They have done acupuncture double-blind trials. Couldn't they simply inject some with real fecal products and others with, oh wait, placebo milk chocolate (or rather soy chocolate) products or something - he is a bonehead.

CBC Online Article here:
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/11/13/fecal-transplant.html

dr.nick.riviera · Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 15

Go probiotics!

I heard that you have to take the oral probiotics constantly/indefinitely because they can't re-populate and remain on their own. So that fecal transplant is interesting. And don't see why some feel it is unpalatable - you aren't eating it.
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